与神对话

大约一个多月前看的片子，当时写下的评价是“从电影来说一般，虽然主角的表演很不错。”。

只觉得拍得简单了，或者说过于终于其原著了。虽然并没有看过这本书。今天忽然地，一连串的镜头又跳了出来。我不知道是什么东西让它们又一次浮现出来，至少我并没有刻意去回溯它们。也并没有什么事件能表明和它们有着关联，或者我并未发现明显的征兆。

然而就是这么地跳转出来。

影片最后，这个主角，已经不记得电影里角色的名字。全片里讲述了这个主角从潦倒最后成功的一个相当简单的故事，甚至有些潦草。
然而在最后，这个成功的主角，又逢到了一个熟悉的身影。正是他自己，依旧是乞丐的样子，依旧落魄潦倒，站在一个大大的垃圾桶边上，低着头，躲避着路人的同情的目光和异样的白眼。
两人——两个同样的人——一起走在一条巷子里，如果没有记错，天上好像下着雨。

分明，这两个人就是一个人，只是以不同的形象呈现出来而已。
原来这个故事可能完全只不过是一个穷困潦倒的乞丐，在自己脑海中的幻想，可能这个所谓成功的故事完全来自于虚构，来自于梦境。
然而这又有什么关系，电影的最后出现的这对彼此平行而又垂直于屏幕走来的这“两”个人，你可以选择成为其中的任何一个，只要你愿意。

如果真的如此，那么此前的电影情节本就可以是虚构，所以可以让你觉得那并不真实存在，可以让你觉得有些潦草的。这本来就是导演的一个障眼法，一个骗局。
我想，导演所要真正传达的，与那些教义无关，与那些经典的语录无关……
整部电影，所要叙述的，仅是这不到一分钟的镜头，这“两个”平行向我们走过来的人。

2010.09.26
弗择·北窗观影

本片是关于Neale Walsch的真实故事，他在人生中最困难的时候向上帝发问。而他从上帝或者说是他内心中获得的答案成就了一本销量超过七百万、被翻译成34种语言的畅销书。本片讲述了他经历了大起大落的戏剧性旅程而最终成为畅销书作家故事。
Adapted from the books by Neale Donald Walsch that inspired and changed the lives of millions worldwide, "Conversations with God" tells the true story of Walsch (Henry Czerny) who, at the lowest point in his life, asks God some very hard questions. The answers he gets from God/within become the foundation of an internationally-acclaimed book series that has sold over 7 million copies and been translated into 34 languages. The film chronicles the dramatic journey of a down and out man who inadvertently becomes a spiritual messenger and bestselling author.

某个傍晚，和朋友在一个清幽的咖啡屋，看见了这本书
作为一名基督徒，当然被书的名字所吸引
于是一个晚上，我认真的在看这本书
并在今天看了由书改编的电影

然后，我想说
这还是一部励志片，其实与宗教没有关系
不过是作者所谓的人类自由意志的滥用罢了

臆想自己能与神对话
臆想否定种种奧迹
臆想仅凭经验体验神性
这不过是在反复证明着人的骄傲自大罢了

还是 欣赏大哲学家维特根斯坦对待宗教的态度
人生不过如同大海中的小岛
我们能够经验到的事情也不过仅限在这个小岛中
至于那片汪洋大海
是人类理性不能达到的地方
是应该尊重，并且敬畏的
那是应该被悬置起来的，不可言说的部分
靠的该是我们“沉默的体验”
某种程度，人类都需要有宗教的关怀

耶稣基督曾说
我就是道路、真理及生命，除非经过我，谁也不能到父那里去

其实
不管你信奉哪一个宗教
哪怕你是一个没有宗教信仰的人
没有关系
但，人永永远远都该怀着谦卑的心情过活
打着自由理性的幌子想象的东西
会因为人们判断力的丧失而在某一时刻被接受
但那只会是暂时的
在浩瀚历史中，什么都算不上

看到这部电影，首先我是在百度查一些人类起源之谜和宇宙奥秘的问题，结果查到这本《与神对话》的书，然后碰巧又看到这部电影。
当然，这部电影拍的确实不咋地，但毕竟是作者的真实经历，虽然充满戏剧，也不得不让人感叹和恐惧，感叹的是人生的大起大落实在绝望，恐惧的是再城市里没有房子没有半亩良田没有固定工作没有家庭，那一个人就是流浪汉了！
或者说，我们每一个人脱离了自己的领地就变成了流浪汉。
但是，电影里交代的背景应该在九十年代，那么，作者以前那么发达，难道身边没有亲戚或者朋友帮他在生活上维持生计？至于到流浪街头的惨状吗？
当然，或许作者没有亲戚，朋友也没有。
对于《与神对话》这本书，我觉得作者的本意是要灌输心灵鸡汤，书的本意是希望大家能够珍惜拥有的一切，只有自己才是自己的神，对生活多些宽容，对身边的人给予更多的爱，我想这就是作者要表达的意思。至于一些宇宙或者政治方面的东西，我想作者就是婉转的讲诉自己的观点，虽然读者读的时候会觉得写的有些故弄玄虚。当然，也不排除作者有意续写那么本主要还是混口饭吃。
总的来说，我觉得每个人都应该有自己的思维，多思考，我现在就是每天都思考一下我喜欢的东西，比如宇宙的诞生，人类怎么来的，世间有没有神，对于这类问题，我已经有了自己的答案，我也相信我现在知道的答案在未来也可能是这个宇宙的答案。

    从来没有这样看电影的感受，缓缓的乐音配合着赋有磁性男音，款款低语，时而悠远低沉，时而近在耳畔。说不清楚，我是被这样的声音所感动，还是被声音传递的内容所震撼。沉醉在其一遍之后，我再次重温了“上帝之音”的那一部分，并按照原音及字幕，原封不动地做了笔录（尽管我知道网上有下载）。
   “Conversations with God”所蕴涵西方的宗教与文化，我无法评述。源于不了解，源于我不是“他”。
   当然，就从影片的很多表达上而言，还是有很多矛盾，或者说不清晰的地方。比如，当Neale在演讲时，一个老头站起来责备Neale这些措词是冠冕堂皇的，一边口口声声说着“发乎于心的爱”，另一边又无法忠于家庭。Neale的回答是不能因为他个人生活的瑕疵，而否定“与神对话”的意义。这显然是一个无法让人满意的答案。最后，那老头让Neale用一句话总结God想对人类所说的话时，Neale的回答是“You’ve got me all wrong.”God 对Neale说“你们误解了我，也误解了你自己。”或许，我们从来都没有理解过所谓的God。
   God还说“真正杰出的人是那些选择怎样生活而不是怎样生存的人”。从西方个人主义的角度来看，这句话很有激励动力。然，站在另一个角度，就像Neale找不到工作只能在垃圾箱寻找食物的时刻，这些论调能在多大程度上帮助一个人Stand Up？
   对于God，对于Life，我依然又数不尽道不完的置疑。这大概也是这部片子的主要所在，重要的不是God所说的，它只是一面镜子，让我们得以安安静静地对着它，反观自身。

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Neale asked: I want answers! What does it take to make life work?

God told to him:

Have you had enough yet?
Have you had enough yet?
Are you ready now?
Do you really want to know the answers to the questions you’re asking?
Are you going to answer me?
You’ve asked a lot of question. You’re angry.
And now I ask you, do you really want to know the answers to the questions you’re asking or are you just venting? -This is crazy.
I know what you’re thinking. And I talk to everyone all the time in their own voice.
The question is who listens?
From the highest mountain it has been shouted.
In the lowest place, its whisper has been heard.
And through the corridors of all human experience, the truth has been echoed.
Love is the answer.

You have projected the role of parent onto God and have thus come up with a God who judges and rewards of punishes.
You have created a fear based reality around love.
And this fear-based love reality dominates your experience of love.
Indeed, it actually creates it.
It is fear that you need in order to be, do and have what is intrinsically right?
Must be threatened in order to be good?
And what is being good?
Who gets the final say about that?
I tell you this. You are your own rule-maker. You set the guidelines.
Love is all there is.
Yes, you’re heard it before.
In fact, I’ve even put it on a bumper sticker for you.
But in times of trouble, in times of worry, doubt or fear you choose to forget.
What you should do is answer the simple question –what would love do now?
To live you life without expectation, without the need for specific results, that is freedom.

Remember, You are constantly in the act of creating yourself.
You are, in every moment, deciding who and what you are.
You decide this largely through the choices you make regarding who and what you fell passionate about.
Worry is the activity of a mind that does not understand it connection with me.
Do you remember the question-what would love do now?
Answer the question, Neale.
And I will be there, always, in all ways.

Suffering has nothing to do with events, but with one’s reaction to them.
What’s happening is merely what’s happening.
How we feel about it is another matter.
You can’t have anything you want
Your very request is one of lack. And you saying you want a thing only works to produce that precise experience –wanting –in your reality.
Should I would punish you for making a choice that I myself have laid before you?
This is a question you must ask yourself before you would assign me the role of a condemning god.

Unendingly have you beseeched me, show myself. Explain myself. Reveal myself.
I am doing so here in terms so plain you cannot misunderstand.
I am here. Right here. Right now.
Now is the time to go to your god space, more and ever.
It will bring you great peace of mind.
And from a peaceful mind do great ideas flow ideas which could be solutions to the biggest problems you imagine yourself to have.

Neale, you’ve got me all wrong, and you’ve got you all wrong too.
I don’t want anything from you rather than for you to be happy.
But you think you are below me, when in truth, we are all one. There is no separation.
I want for you what you want for you –nothing more, nothing less.
I am not concerned about your worldly success.
You are not to worry about making a living.
True masters are those who have chosen to make a life rather than a living.
Go ahead. Do whatever you really love. Do nothing else.
You have so little time.
How can you think of wasting a moment doing something for a living that you don’t like to do? That is not a living. That is dying.

At last
Do not feel abandoned, for I am always with you. I will not leave you.
I cannot leave you, for you are my creation and my product, my daughter, my son, my purpose and myself.
Call on me, therefore wherever and whenever you are separate from the peace that I am.
I will be there.